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  Please explain!

  by Freedom rocks in

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  hi please can someone explain this in laymans terms for me coz i be ever got it as a jw and still don't.

  it doesn't make sense to me.

  bible chronology indicates that god’s kingdom was established in heaven in 1914. this is shown by a prophecy recorded in chapter 4 of the bible book of daniel.. overview of the prophecy.

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  Finky, all theology is nutty!

  Imagine a long established and respected academic discipline which is devoted to a thing which is both undetectable and non-interactive.
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  A challenge to believers

  by Half banana in

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  nothing is ever fixed, laws change and religious myth evolves.

  no doubt the habiru (hebrew) forebears of the jews when arriving in the levantine highlands cherished their stone age practices and sacred rituals.

  child and human sacrifice was a grim stone age social mechanism to make for balance, loyalty and control within a tribe.there was no connection then with an almighty spirit, polytheism ruled the hebrew mentality.

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  Nothing is ever fixed, laws change and religious myth evolves. No doubt the Habiru (Hebrew) forebears of the Jews when arriving in the Levantine highlands cherished their Stone age practices and sacred rituals. Child and human sacrifice was a grim Stone Age social mechanism to make for balance, loyalty and control within a tribe.There was no connection then with an almighty spirit, polytheism ruled the Hebrew mentality. Human sacrifice only came to an end when outlawed by the civilised Romans.

  It has to be understood that the Jews had no claim to any special privilege or divine favour any more than their neighbours did back then and no more than we could claim today for our chosen beliefs. The impoverished Hebrew speaking Bronze Age goat herders in Judea lived in a world driven by superstition and fatalistic belief in the gods including their holy warrior mascot Yahweh.
  

  Why are we still discussing their primitive beliefs as if it they are holy, as if ever they had any meaning for us or for mankind. Wake up people! the mythology of 2600 years ago has long been superseded and we arbitrate knowledge through evidence and questioning that evidence, no longer has superstition any place in choosing a path in life today-- if we are sensible.

  The challenge:

  If you believe the Bible to be holy, please demonstrate from evidence and logic why anyone today should know that something or anything is holy.
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  Facing my own mortality!

  by eyeuse2badub in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m 71 years old now.

  seven decades plus.

  but, i put that in perspective owing to the fact that my older brother died in 1992 at the age of only 51. it was a very sobering time for me even though i was only 45 at the time.

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  Death is just nature's way of telling you to slow down. . .
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  Please explain!

  by Freedom rocks in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi please can someone explain this in laymans terms for me coz i be ever got it as a jw and still don't.

  it doesn't make sense to me.

  bible chronology indicates that god’s kingdom was established in heaven in 1914. this is shown by a prophecy recorded in chapter 4 of the bible book of daniel.. overview of the prophecy.

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  Freedom Rocks, did you know that it gives great peace of mind when you realise that the stories in the Bible are meaningless. They may have some dubious moral instruction but it usually comes with the threat of "I'll kill you if you don't obey." Great!

  Prophecy is a game for idiots. There can be no reliable prophecy anywhere and there never has been any. The prescientific world relied on soothsayers (truthsayers) and auspicious moments to do things. The prescientific world of the Bible, Judaism and Christianity was squarely based on superstition. Therefore any interpretation of the Bible, since it comes from this past unenlightened world, is simply hocus pocus.

  The Bible is truly useless as a guide for knowledge or prophecy, it was written to enslave the poor and ignorant-- you can safely chuck it in the waste bin and be assured that it won't come back to bite you.
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  Is he interested?

  by Sunnybear in

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  2. relationships

  i met a wonderful man on match.com several months ago.

  on our first date, there was amazing chemistry and we ended up having sex.

  it was not planned, it just happened.

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  To mess emotionally with a Jehovah's Witness is to invite disaster into your life.

  Truly you would regret getting more deeply involved with this man who is already wrestling with his conscience (if he has one) because sex outside of marriage is a religious offence for JWs.

  If you want to remain sunny Sunnybear, please do not listen to the teachings of this paranoid toxic cult and look for an honest partner who instead will put you and your interests above and ahead of his religious obligations.
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  A spy's life is a lonely one

  by LevelThePlayingField in

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  2. beliefs

  so i have been awake since about this time in 2013, so about 5 years.

  and the craziest thing about it is that now, no one, and i mean no one know's i am an apostate.

  meaning, that i don't believe the jw minds set/beliefs at all, and no one knows it.

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  Level, well done for waking up! I remember the intense frustration of going to the meetings having woken up and in my case already having become an atheist. To watch the illogical drivel and indoctrination being encouraged on the platform made me want to shout out at the stupidity of it all. I held my tongue! So I sympathise with you!

  I did enjoy walking out of a meeting half way through never to return to the kh, it was a sweet moment!

  I did try and sow seeds of logic like contradicting someone's assertion that the Watchtower is never wrong but the conditioning of JWs is one of social conformity above and beyond reason. JW thinking tramples on logic because it places a greater value on keeping alive the hope of living forever in the panda petting dream world. JWs are permanently egged on to keep believing this pie in the sky nonsense by the witness community which is what JW club membership is all about.

  So the difficulty is always finding how to pacify the emotional needs and breaking the social taboos not just exposing the faulty reasoning. This is hard enough but your average JW is almost hard wired to ignore dissent even it it is logical...it's a wonder any of us made it out!

  However, sowing seeds of scientific facts (no Adam, no flood) and the errors of JW revisionist history should make a difference, it's probably the best we can do under the circumstances.
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  I Got a Response from the Washington Post (JW article)

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  2. scandals

  dear terry,.

  thank you very much for your note.

  i really appreciate all the information you provided on jehovah’s witnesses and the personal experiences you shared in this email.

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  Well done for getting your criticism of the JW org across Terry. Their cult leadership imagine they are divinely inspired and therefore above the law.

  What buffoons! the truth will catch up with them thanks to the information revolution.
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  Accepting Your Shadow(Jungian)

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  when looking inside one's self to find your authentic self requires a brutally honesty with yourself.

  the shadow side of ourseelves is where we stuff a lot of things we don't like about ourselves, stuff we have repressed, not all is bad stuff, some very good.

  understanding your shadow side and unrepressing things in it can restore balance to the psyche and make one more whole and more creative as the psyche becomes unstuck from denial and suppression of natural instincts.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg1cvp4u5sy.

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  You have supplied two very good You tube presentations Brokeback, best seen in sequence, the first explaining “the shadow” and the second how to set about addressing the integration of the shadow with one’s real self resulting in being a happier, self-reliant and a more complete individual.

  A JW on the other hand, driven by his or her unthinking Watchtower loyalty is bound to ignore Jung’s wisdom and instead guiltily suppress the dark side of their nature.

  They are led to believe that their JW persona is the real self, alas! it is only a functional mask, so conflict ensues.

  These wrong attitudes compound their psychic problems and makes them ever more dependent on the leadership. In doing this the Witness is in fact infantilized-- that is, made to remain with child-like characteristics which simultaneously give yet more power to the paternalism of the governing body.

  This is how cults operate.

  JWs with doubts are led to ask “Where else can I go?” You could try reading Jung for a start.
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  The Dark-Skinned Early Briton.

  by fulltimestudent in

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  2. friends

  i'm sure many others noted in yesterday's news feeds, that scientists deciphering the dna of the skeleton remains of a man thought to have died some 10,000 years ago in the south of england, have presented him as:.

  as blue-eyed (now that's quite english) but as dark skinned.

  and, that's not very english, to the horror of many.. (link: https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2018/02/ancient-face-cheddar-man-reconstructed-dna-spd/ ).

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  Erratum, should anyone ever read this thread...the giant elk had antlers up to 3.65 meters wide or 12 feet.
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  The Anal Retentive Biblical Jehovah

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  freud came up with the idea: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/anal_retentiveness.

  i would like to sight some examples of a anal retentiveness of the biblical deity.. the garden of eden and the death penalty for eating a fruit, which by the way was passed on to all future offspring requiring an anal retentive jehovah to provide a suitable sacrifice of his only begotten son to correct the situation and thus make it possible for forgiveness from the big guy and remove the death curse.. working on a saturday= death penalty.

  mandatory blue thread and fringes on all israelite garments.. death penalty for touching the ark of the covenant to prevent it from tipping over.. exclusive devotion only to be given to him, bowing to other gods/idols forbidden.. grows hot with anger and becomes violently enraged killing off all kinds of human and animal life with a flood when humans not living the way he feels is right.. threatening to tread on mankind like a mighty man crushing grapes under his feet when pissed off.. loss of self control when pissed off over insignificant trifles.

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  Half banana

  Jehovah is the anal retentive par excellence and in their attempt to be gods themselves the governing body try to be likewise.

  I would also add a few other damning characteristics which they exhibit: manipulative, pharisaical, plank in the eyes, hypocritical, deliberately ignorant narcissists.

  Still-- their mothers probably loved them.